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Friday, 02 April 2010 21:40

Church of Miscavige launches retaliatory email campaign to discredit Anderson Cooper

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The email below is being circulated today in response to CNN's special Scientology: A History of Violence which aired March 29 - April 2, 2010 on Anderson Cooper 360. Just as they have done with Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder, Steve Hall, Amy Scobee, Tom Devocht, Jeff Hawkins and other whistleblowers, the Church of Miscavige is now doing with Anderson Cooper. The Church of Miscavige has become a hate group because it is actively creating hate through character assisination and black propaganda. The church behaves like organized crime because it is organized crime. What kind of "church" would write and circulate an email campaign like the one below:

From: LD Sledge < This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Date: Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:15 AM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: How to talk to Anderson Cooper about violence
To:

More on Anderson Cooper.  I didn't know he had had ECT.  Now this explains everything. Thanks Ron for this data. I knew he was homo but not a fan of ECT.  Electro Shock Therapy where they put an electrode on either side of your temporals and send a jolt of electricity through your brain to solve a problem you have. They dont have a clue and anyone know who has had ECT is now a mixed up jigsaw puzzle--and dangerous.

L D Sledge


----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Clarke" < This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 3:41 AM
Subject: How to talk to Anderson Cooper about violence


Anderson Cooper on CNN is a major promotor of electric shock treatment and says he is one who has undergone ECT many times.

He is an active gay and a promotor of a "gay life style."

Anderson Cooper was trained to be a CIA agent but was promoted into TV "News."

If one wanted to summarize Anderson Cooper's career, if you said he  was a merchant of chaos and first and foremost a promotor of violence,  you will have it in a nut shell.

So, how should one talk to a standardly gay CIA agent who dearly loves and has had lots of ECT performed on him to make him a better person  and newscaster and believes it has, when he wants to portray you and  your group as violent?



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+1 # Freetothink 2010-04-02 16:42
Are you f@#%ing kidding me? What a bunch of creeps! If it's true that AC has had ECT then it completely debunks there line that anybody receiving ECT is koo-koo. Don't get me wrong I don't support ECT but CCHR would want you to believe that ECT destroys a person's ability to think & live a normal life. Anybody can see that AC is not a zombie. AC has a large following & I bet a lot of people would like to be like him. If the Church takes the road of trying to discredit AC because he got ECT they might only succeed in discrediting that ECT is bad for you. How stupid can they be.

BTW, Idle Org, I love the caricature. It's hilarious!
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+1 # These attempts to deflect no longer workJoe Howard 2010-04-02 22:38
I have no idea whether the allegations made in this email are accurate or not.

But it doesn't make any difference. Neither does all the airing of the faults and failings of anyone exposing the abuse of DM make a bit a difference. Even if everything being said about AC and the others is true, so what?

What they are alleging about DM could ALSO be true. Which was the entire point of the AC 360 series.

Yet, the morons sending these things out think that the same operations that routinely work on them--ad hominem attacks--will work on others.

As Dylan once wrote, "To live outside the law you must be honest."

I.e., you have to look with your own eyes and see what YOU see, not what someone tells you you see.

Let's get a poll going: Who did you believe on the AC 360 shows on Scientology violence: the church representative or the independents?
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0 # Your wish is my commandThoughtful 2010-04-02 22:54
Done, Sahib.
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0 # DisgustingRedneck Thetan 2010-04-02 23:55
Anderson was an intern at the CIA one summer in college, just like many other college students do. That doesn't make him into a CIA plant. The only time that I know of that he ever even talked about ECT was when he discussed whether psychiatry is a pseudoscience with a Sci rep after the Tom Cruise Freedom Medal of Valor presentation speech leak. Anderson's brother killed himself in a depressive state when he was still a teen, so that's a subject that he was justifiably tough on. And the allegations of him promoting a "gay life style" is not even worth discussing.

They are lucky that Anderson gave their side such a fair report, considering they held out their interviews until Monday. And it's about time they figured that smear campaigns, email spamming and stacks of affidavits won't be enough to get journalists off their back. Actually treating people like humans would be a start in doing that.
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0 # Casey 2010-04-03 00:02
LD Sledge you have gotta to be kidding me?
He used to be a lawyer and lost his license to practice in Baton Rouge La. LD grow up you got caught for some nasty things that you did so knock this crap off.
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0 # TRUTH 2010-04-03 00:33
How stupid of the church to attack gays.

Remember Paul H's resignation letter to Tommy? One of the main reason that he brought up in that letter, was about the church attacking gays rights which Tommy denied that church would do that. Now they are sending this letter about AC being gay!?

Well, church won't be able to discredit AC, because he is so loved internationally. It'll definitely back flashes in a big way.

Steve and everyone did amazing with CNN. Thank you!
Well, we are winning and DM knows that. Can't wait to see the BBC report/investigation on the church!!!!!!!!:-)
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0 # Nasty & RudeSinar 2010-04-03 00:33
Perhaps those Desperate Xwives and company already had this "briefing" before the show and this is why they appeared so nasty and rude, looking down at AC and not really talking normally?

In reality, Mestology does not apply TWTH or Human Rights as touted by them. How would this campaign conform to the "Golden Rule" in most religions and TWTH? Thus they will pull in bad stuff, if they believe their own Tech.
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+1 # What about ARC?Brad Hagemo 2010-04-03 00:44
I have always appreciated simplicity. Scientology only looks compicated because it addresses the confusions and contradictions incurred in life. A very simple stable datum has served me well when evaluating my actions or the actions of others. It is as follows: " If it does not increase ARC then it is not Scientology!"

No amount of drilling by Miscavige or his minions can help someone turn a lie into the truth. Tommy Davis, Leserve, Starky and the harpies which were trotted out to defend DM using vitriolic attacks on the character of any and all who question the integrity of the Pope of Scientology, most definitely did not create ARC for themselves or thier cause.

Marty and company did not attack their attackers but expressed compassion for people they cared about who are PTS and in an impossible situation. Those people have been given a choice to give up their integrity or their spiritual salvation. The simple but awful truth is that they have given up both.

It was clear to me who was practicing Scientology and who was not.
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0 # Dennis ClarkSam 2010-04-03 01:37
Anderson Cooper is obviously a very intelligent person. I didn't see anything on the net that substantiates the claims in this email, but what I did find was how much of a zealot Dennis Clark is. Check out his behavior in these protests from the 90's: www.xenutv.com/.../ots.htm#clarke
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0 # Pirate\s Wife 2010-04-03 02:46
What a cr*p!
I can only see those ex-wives dramatize so much. AC was just doing his job as any newscaster does.
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0 # AppallingWindhorse 2010-04-03 03:41
Sorry for the length of this -- I just am appalled and at the same time utterly grief stricken by:

this email from LD. Which I read in the middle of the night. It took me quite awhile to relax afterwards.

LD lost his son in a bicycle accident many years ago in Baton Rouge. He was 10 or so. LD wrote beautiful poems about this loss and grieved. His wife left him, joined the SO - took him for a bunch of money (lived the rich SO lifestyle as a result) and took their son with her. He either remarried or had a long term relationship and started to write books.

Fast forward -- for years he was disaffected. Upset about management and very on the fence ... BUT somehow was brought back into the fold. OK fine.

Dennis Clarke is far from a saint. A womanizer back in his thinner days and somehow managed to live off his CCHR rants and raves although never hampered by BEING a staff member, per se. Good deal if you can swing it.

As for ECT - well, the thought is abhorrent and sends shivers down my spine BUT BUT BUT I friend of mine suffered severe clinical depression after her husband of 40 years left. And was very suicidal and practically comotose. Nothing helped. I personally tried to do what I knew -- locations, vitamins etc and tried to get her to stop seeing a psych. Her children took over her care -- AND she had ECT. At first she was a basket case. Remembered nothing. Soon the short term memory loss passed. She is now happy, well, vibrant, busy, runs her own company, gardens. In short -- she is ALIVE.

(Science is finding how malleable the brain is. How after a stroke a person CAN retrain and basically rewire his/her brain and become fully or nearly functioning again. Same can be said of traumatic brain injury patients. AND it seems -- the same with the severely depressed. ITS ABOUT shocking the brain to rewire.)

AND lastly -- my father killed himself while I was on staff in the SO. THAT completely took the rug out from under me. I was "saving the planet" and yet by precious father killed himself. Of course, because I was on staff -- I didn't even KNOW (who talks to their family as a staff member except for birthdays perhaps and Christmas?) he was depressed.

For YEARS -- believe it or not -- I would say -- well, at least he wasn't on psych drugs when he died. ONE DAY I said -- OMFG -- IF he HAD been on psych drugs he would still be alive. AND he could have gotten off them eventually, perhaps.

Do I promote psych drugs? NO. Do I promote ECT? NO.

But being privy to a recent OT VII who is NOW TYPE III and abandoned by her "church" -- I say -- LIFE is most important. Get someone back on their feet by whatever means -- and THEN work on sorting out HOW they recovered.

OH -- and one more thing --

This is the 21st Century LD, Ron (Savelo-CCHR), Denis -- people are to be respected not called names from some old well of Christian puritan thinking. Please -- "COME UP TO PRESENT TIME"

WH
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0 # Looking In 2010-04-03 05:36
Thanks WH; well stated. I read your entries on Marty's blog page a lot and like what you have to say.
There is an LRH ref which I would have to look long and hard for where he refers to ECT having occasional success because it moves the person on the time track from where they were stuck. Unpredictable though. The point being that there is much to learn about the ol' brain and it appears to be more than just a shock absorber.
Sorry about your Dad. I do understand.
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0 # lunamoth 2010-04-03 06:16
Windhorse

Your father's death and the circumstances surrounding it are all to familiar to me. I'm just so sorry. Only time and one's own spiritual strength and wisdom will mitigate an experience
like that.

I admire your courage to say what is absolutely TABOO within scientology, which is that people have been and can be helped by other methods, even psychiatry, and that HELP IS HELP.

Denis Clarke is big on statistics (none of which I trust at this point), and a salvaged human being, one who is brought back from the precipice by whatever means, is the VFP statistic (valuable final product) of all possible statistics. And while the church will trumpet from the rooftops the "importance of "X number of new people" hearing a radio promo for dianetics, they will never acknowledge how many lives of mothers, fathers, daughters and sons were saved by means other than scientology.

Let's dispel right here and now the lie that the main concern of the c of m is the salvaging of beings. That ship has sailed. It's becoming more widely known each day for the bullshit it is.

The email above was apparently intercepted along comm lines within the church's field - my guess is that it was found on The Razzline. I've seen L D Sledge's "work" posted there many times and have always thought he was a crackpot. His postings are often ill-conceived, reactive and inflammatory in nature, though he drapes them in the guise of "aesthetics." Unfortunately for the church, this is just more of what they've had so much of this week; exposure of the nastines, hate, and unhinged nature of some of its members.
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0 # Questionwindhorse 2010-04-03 19:18
Lunamoth -- you mentioned "your father's death and the circumstances surrounding it are all too familiar to me"

Do you mean this hypothetically OR because you were actually there at Flag at the time of his death?

In which case -- we must know each other.

WH
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0 # Opps - windhorse 2010-04-04 04:18
I knew I was upset -- I meant figuratively, rather than hypothetically.

WH
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0 # lunamoth 2010-04-04 10:49
windhorse,

Sorry, that was ambiguous, wasn't it? What I meant is that I have some very similar track in this area.

Our experiences differ in some ways, but I've had to deal with some of those same things, and since deciding to leave scientology behind, one of my most profoundly sad realizations has been the condition into which I had let my relationship with my non-scientology family fall. I have neglected and ignored people who really loved me. There was the aspect of being "too busy" with scientology-related obligations, but the blame is really my own; I have ordered my own priorities. I just have not always done it wisely. For some of those relationships it is too late.
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0 # Correctionwindhorse 2010-04-03 17:02
Being privy to a recent OT VIII (that's a recent OT EIGHT - so can't make the excuses about -- oh -- that person flipped out on the OLD OT VIII)

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0 # lunamoth 2010-04-04 12:47
WH

I've had a similar situation with someone close to me, also an OT. They have observable valence shifts (everything changes; expression, color of skin, gestures, voice, behavior)and where they once were highly ethical and a very social personality, they have become almost unrecognizable in some ways, even committed criminal acts. Do you know of any handle? Does this destimulate over time?
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0 # Anderson CooperNathan 2010-04-03 04:17
Let's hope people with half a brain can make their own judgment about a person in front of them regardless of whether they are gay,sado-masochistic on drugs or whatever. Anderson is a very tuned in, intelligent guy who can communicate better than most.

PS: I can't find part 5 of the CNN show anywhere. I'm in Australia and it's still not on the net or CNN site. Any tips? I'm sick of waiting!!
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+1 # E 2010-04-03 05:35
I still think DM is a graduate of MK Ultra,and he probably has a CIA computer chip in his brain. And if so, it would be a very successful mole career. Anderson Cooper, on the other hand, looks like a newsman doing his job.
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0 # Another Surfer 2010-04-03 05:37
These emails just can't be real. Can they?

The hateful sites DM's adherents run, like Religious Freedom Watch, the email campaigns like the ones above, the recent tv appearances of "church officials" staring and frothing at the mouth and those poor ex-wives, strident, fanatical and bitter... well, these people seem to be entirely unaware of how they appear to those who are not indoctrinated. It's as though DM's adherents live on another planet where the tone and body language of sane beings are completely different than they are here on earth.

A planet where an acceptable response to serious allegations of felonious behavior and abuse of human rights is to lie about and viciously attack the character of those who speak up or who dare to give a venue (never mind credence) to those who are speaking up.

A planet where such things as disparaging a person's sexual orientation is considered a legitimate argument for why scientology (church of) is good and it helps people.

Just... wow.
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0 # Re: Out-Tech \"Psych Drug\" Labelbeebercat 2010-04-03 05:37
Hi Steve,

I was hoping this post would indeed spark some interest in this matter of the false label of "psych drugs" keeping PCs off the Bridge. and Dennis Clarke's involvment with it. I didn't mean to sign this post as coming from Anonymous. It's actually from me, "beebercat" and hopefully you remember me - we talked on the phone one night.
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0 # Hi beebercatThoughtful 2010-04-03 11:43
I went in and put your name on the post... Thanks!
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0 # beebercat 2010-04-03 05:41
Last I heard of Dennis Clarke was when he was heavily promoting some rip-off multi-level marketing scam around 1993. Freddie Ulan and Dennnis Clarke wre partners running CCHR Int in 1986, '87. Freddie, a good person, became so sick he almost died. At that time CCHR wasn't being run per standard LRH policy, but on "informational pamphlets" written by Clarke about various aspects of psych abuse. Clarke is the one who coined the phrase, "psych drugs", and started that whole campaign, not based on any LRH reference,but on some agenda of his own. I have not been able to find any policy on "psych drugs" at all, despite a thorough search in the qual library. Apparently just about any drug these days is classified as "psych drugs" from talking recently with a Scn medical doctor. This psych drug nonsense has created bad PR for the church via Tom Cruise, and I'm sure resulted in countless pcs being denied auditing, not based on LRH references on pc eligibility, but on Dennis's ideas.
I know someone who worked with Dennis, and according to him, this exaggeration of the truth is SOP for Dennis, as well as heavy inval and general enturbulation. This person was beaten down with heavy inval and false ethics handlings by Dennis, which then resulted in a major crash in their life.
Personally, I think he's an SP,the real thing.
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0 # Shocking revelationsThoughtful 2010-04-03 03:57
What you're saying is amazing. I remember back in 1990 or so, Miscavige was debating trying to reconcile what drugs were "psych drugs" and would result in a potential pc being denied auditing. On the one hand, the idea was brutal: if anyone ever took a drug handed out by a psychiatrist, they don't qualify for auditing. On the other hand, LRH created the Psych Repair Rundown -- to repair any harmful treatment they had received so they could progress on up the Bridge. For years, this was left unsolved, I believe, and even today the Psych Repair Rundown is not much used.

(I predict one day this rundown will be in broad use, repairing thousands of Scientologists from out-tech they received thanks to David Miscavige).

I remember hearing heartbreaking stories from a Public Exec Sec of people who came in for auditing, inspired with hope, only to be turned away because they once innocently took a pill from a doctor.

All this bears more investigation; I don't have all the facts by any means. However, based on the appalling smear campaign mounted by the Church and Dennis Clarke, my guess is that further inspection will uncover a can of worms.
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0 # psch drugslunamoth 2010-04-03 05:35
I could never understand WHY a close friend was
considered an illegal pc for 20+ years due to taking "psych drugs," then recently, suddenly and with no explanation told she was NOT illegal. She has now done the psych rundown, but how does this handling jibe with LRH saying, at least 24 years ago, that "we now have the technology to handle any case." WTF?
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0 # String pull necessaryFidelio 2010-04-07 08:02
Steve,

OMG, this is a string that needs to be pulled!!!
I mean to see the General Sherman's tank already...just thinking about it makes my heart race.
ML, Fidelio
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+1 # Don\'t worry!Nathan 2010-04-03 06:59
Don't worry about it. The part 5 finally showed up at the CNN site at 11pm Saturday here in Australia. I've been glued to this for 5 days! There's nothing as sweet to see as a guy who has nothing to lose! Which is exactly what Jeff,Marty and Tom looked like tonight. Magic! What a contrast to those poor pressured, drilled, debreifed, etc, ex-wives. oh..the memories.Sad.
Nice one fellas.
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0 # beebercat 2010-04-03 07:11
Didn't Tommy Davis say somewhere that the church didn't discriminate against gays? Of course we all know they do, but someone should get this e-mail to some gay rights organizations. My God, people are being beaten and families are being ripped apart. People are suffering, and all the church cares about is what Mr. Anderson does in his bedroom? Even if he is gay, so what??? Are we Puritans? I for one don't care if he likes having oral sex with donkeys(as long as he doesn't hurt the donkey).
Jeeez, you slimey assholes at OSA or whatever, I'm getting angry now........real angry.
The rest of it is most likely made up. I wonder where C of S gets their "information"?
You know Cof S, if you're reading this. I don't need to point out the obvious do I; that making Mr. Cooper out to be a bad guy doesn't change the fact that people are in fact being beaten, suppressed,etc. I mean, you couldn't be so out of it to think this handles the situation?
Maybe you are that far gone.
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+1 # Freedom Fighter 2010-04-03 08:23
Ah, the masters of Third Party. I hope whoever received these e-mails asked for the source of this information and called BS on the 3-P.
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0 # Axiom142 2010-04-03 08:42
This is so predictable. And pathetic. Anderson Cooper hosts a show that discusses abuses (allegedly ;-) ) committed by the ‘leader’ of Scientology, so this makes him a raving anti-Scientologist (in the minds of those still in the CoS).

Even more predictable is bringing up Anderson’s sexual orientation – as if that makes any difference.

They have to find reasons why they are being attacked and yet they fail to look at the REAL reason.

I hope that copies of these Emails have been forwarded to CNN and Anderson?

Axiom142
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+2 # marty rathbun 2010-04-03 10:30
Steve,
Thanks for exposing names. These "public" who do DM's bidding, no matter how low-brow and ignorant, and act like the fascist dictator himself need their ethics put in. They, unlike the majority of "public", do not suffer from being misinformed. They are actively misinforming. I'd love for DM to send Dennis down in these parts to attempt to physically intimidate me - like he has done with others. I guarantee you it would be Dennis the Menace's last terror mission.
Marty
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0 # Natalie 2010-04-03 11:43
Just when I thought Miscavige's church couldn't stoop any lower, now they attack someone based on their sexual orientation. Whether Anderson is gay or not, does not change the fact that violence and human rights violations are being perpetuated in this church.

It wasn't Anderson that beat multiple Sea Org members, coerced abortions, deprived Sea Org members of food and sleep and committed a host of other human rights abuses.
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0 # Thanks NatalieThoughtful 2010-04-03 11:47
And it doesn't stop there: through out-tech of invalidating the State of Clear, interrupting people's progress through the OT levels in violation of the No-Interference Zone rule, redefinition of instant reads and F/Ns, gross mis-application of ethics, and as Archer said the other day, basically forcing people to become suppressives in his own image or be kicked out of Scientology... Miscavige has brought on and hastened the actual death of many.
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0 # Steve Cook 2010-04-03 12:01
Love the cartoon. That says it all.
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0 # Carol 2010-04-03 17:01
Right on Marty and all who have posted. Dennis is a bully and always has been one. He is an enturbulating person and LD, well he is a good follower, little short man and womanizer.
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0 # Oh yeah do that!Are Ya Kidding? 2010-04-03 18:24
Attacking gays again. That'll really work... NOT!

I think the Church needs to come to PT. In it's present condition it just doesn't fit into modern day society. But, I don't think people ever like to be beaten. Well, maybe some do. I guess they are the ones that stayed.
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0 # Surf Dude 2010-04-04 10:32
Kill the messenger! Kill the messenger! Don't look at the midget behind the curtain! Kill the messenger!

This is a "church" that, just like Al Qaeda, hates our government, the CIA and the FBI. And they were given tax exempt status. Only in America! I hope this cult collapses soon. They remind me so very much for the Nazis.

Kill the messenger!

Way to go, Anderson Cooper! You da man!
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0 # they just continue to lie, SOP for the present sciPaolo 2010-04-05 10:25
beebercat, reading your post I had a cognition, a big one:

They (The C. of S.) lied to us also about "psych drugs". They probably lied to us about the real effects of ECT (even though I still disapprove of that treatment).

In the same way they lied to us about the advanced OT Levels (OT IX-XV)that do not exist. In the same way they lied to us about the 1982 mission holder conference, in the same way they lied to us about Mayo, I mean this is just liying.

When you take the lies away what's left of the Church of Scientology? These guys they are just lying and they have been doing so (and covering up earlier lies since 1980).

Paolo
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0 # You\'re right PauloHerb 2010-04-06 11:17
I'm afraid you're right, Paulo.

The CoS has taken what is a legitimate concern for all ethical people, including all ethical psychiatrists (!) - the proper use of medication and surgical and other interventions for mental health issues - and has exaggerated and at times lied in order to make a real concern into a source of fear and anger.

There is a real role for legitimate oversight and accountability in this field. But CCHR's often bizarre claims (eg. that "up to 50% of all psychiatrists sexually abuse their patients" WTF?!!) are irresponsible and dangerous in themselves.

I saw a most extraordinary story the other day about a child whose seizures were so extreme that surgeons removed almost half of her brain. Because she was so young (3), she quickly recovered from the paralysis and now has a real life. I admit, the concept is so extreme that I can't imagine how sick your child must be for you to contemplate consenting to it, but the parents claim a miraculous recovery for their daughter.

today.msnbc.msn.com/.../?gt1=43001

There's video.

(No, I'm not promoting radical brain surgery. :-) )
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0 # Psych DrugsLou Dog 2010-04-09 21:25
If you do some research, you will find that all antidepressants are only an antihistamine with a higher dosage being used.

Many antipsychotics are the same.
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0 # RJ 2010-04-05 13:28
Interesting that they'd accuse Anderson Cooper of working for CIA, especially in light of the following:

cryptome.org/cia-2619.htm

Funny how the criminal mind works.

Not only that but they use the same tactics that dear ol' Mother K uses to discredit a source.

Character assassination is very closely related to Black Propaganda and is a common tactic of the Espiocracy.

Look what they did to Gary Webb:

www.amazon.com/.../1560259302

A little more subtle than Mafia Tactics who would have put out a contract on AC or a least sent Quedo to break his legs or sent him a fish during the series.

Any way the only ones who are going to believe this "crap" as an earlier poster precisely labeled it, are the "true believers".

Who are becoming an endangered species.

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0 # Valkov 2010-04-06 11:20
The degradation of the Co$ is obvious and requires no more comment from me, but - their complete lack of compassion and goodwill towards others is obvious in their denigration of Anderson Cooper.

About ECT - there are organizations of "ECT survivors" that are completely independent of CCHR and the Co$. Their main issue with psychiatry and ECT is not that ECT has not helped some of them, but that psychiatry lied to them about the actual effects of ECT - some permanent loss of memories is common, occasionally some loss of other cognitive functions.

Their "platform" is usually along the lines of calling for full disclosure of the actually effects. Some of them have testified before Congress, and the FDA also, who regulates "medical devices".

There are also protest groups in some states, notably New York, about the use of ECT on children and young adults, particularly the involuntary administration of it.

What psychiatry does not disclose, or minimizes, is that ECT causes a closed-head injury with some destruction of brain tissue.

Interestingly enough, many people suffer closed-head injuries in automobile accidents and the result is often exactly the same kind of euphoria as is caused by ECT. This is well-known to people who work with closed-head injuries, which is a large industry in the USA.

ECT would not be my first choice for "mental treatment", and I think it's too bad psychiatry has nothing better to offer,but I can understand why some people feel driven to try it. And to stigmatize someone who has received the treatment, is just criminal.

Hubbard himself, in one of the first lectures in the "Anatomy of the Spirit of Man" series, mentions getting good results from auditing even some pcs who had had "shock treatment".

The Co$ today has not only completely failed to help many people scientology could have helped, it it actively refusing to help anyone.
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+1 # They are narcissists! Tara 2010-04-12 11:42
Narcissism: from Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism
The term narcissism refers to the personality trait of egotism, which includes the set of character traits concerned with self-image ego. The terms narcissism, narcissistic, and narcissist are often used as pejoratives, denoting vanity, conceit, egotism or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others.
I knew LD for a very long time. I am not at all surprised by this. He was disbarred in 2003 via the Supreme Court of Louisiana.
Who really cares what AC's sexual preference or mental history is? Well, an old narcissistic man with sexual dysfunction and a fixation on sex does, that's who. (I know...my bad) But truth.

AC did a fantastic job NOT getting sucked into the lies.
LD and Dennis are being BULLIES and are such narcissists they have no clue that people see straight through them!
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