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Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:14

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Does it strike you as odd that 38 out of 50 staff members from the last organization that L. Ron Hubbard personally ran himself in St Hill, England (known as "Old Saint Hill") have been declared "suppressive persons" by David Miscavige and kicked out of Scientology forever? LRH said 2 1/2 percent of the population is suppressive. But according to David Miscavige, demonstrated by his own actual statistics, 76% of the population is suppressive. I used to wonder why so many senior Scientologists got declared. Then it happened to many of my friends. And finally to me. I don't wonder any more. Consider too, that many of these individuals had a husband or wife, sons or daughters whom they had brought into Scientology. So once they were declared, they never saw those friends or family again. Here is the list (thanks to Pierre Ethier who logged many hours to research and verify these amazing facts and who graciously made this information available... and more recently to Luis Garcia who verified the exact number as 38 out of 50). If anyone knows of any omissions or errors on this list, please forward to me:

  1. Ken Urquhart LRH Pers Comm, LRH Butler, for 15 yrs (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  2. J.J. Delance Technical Staff Clear #17 Started Scn in France (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  3. Leon Steinberg Exec Council Clear #10 Personal Friend of LRH One of the original LRH trained Class XII (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  4. Jenny Parkhouse Treasury Staff Clear #54 Personal Friend of LRH (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  5. Pat Bloomberg Dissem Sec (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  6. Peter Hemery HCO Secretary Personal Friend of LRH (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  7. Mike Rigby Dir Accounts (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  8. Joyce Popham LRH Pers Sec (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  9. Joan McNocher: D/Guardian (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  10. Robin Hancocks Deputy HCO Executive Sec (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  11. Frank Freedman D/Qual Clear #127 Class VIII (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  12. Betty James Ad Council Chairman (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  13. John McMaster SHSBC Course Supervisor FIRST CLEAR (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  14. Pam Pearcy Ad Council Clear #211 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  15. Reg Sharpe LRH Assistant Personal Friend of LRH Clear #7 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  16. Tony Dunleavy Clearing Course Supervisor Clear #20 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  17. Connie Broadbent Dir Accounts Clear #29 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  18. Craig Lipsitz Qual Staff Clear #30 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership, but now undeclared)
  19. Sheena Fairchild Tech Staff Clear #41 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  20. Jennifer Edmonds Tech Staff Clear #15 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  21. Bernie Green Tech Staff Clear #18 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  22. Gareth McCoy Dissem Staff Clear #21 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  23. John Lawrence Tech Staff Clear #28 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  24. Peggy Bankston Tech Staff Clear #34 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  25. Helen Pollen Qual Staff Clear #47 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  26. Fred Fairchild Tech Staff Clear #49 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  27. Dorothy Knight Dissem Staff Clear #50 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  28. Judy Gray Tech Staff Clear #56 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  29. Cal Wigney Div 6 Staff Clear #57 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  30. Mary Long Div 6 Staff Clear #58 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  31. Bill Robertson Tech Staff Clear #61 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  32. Linda Nussbaum Exec Staff Clear #62 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  33. Robin Lindsell Tech Staff Clear #73 Class XII (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  34. Val Wigney Saint Hill Interne Clear #87 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  35. Edith Hoyseth Saint Hill Interne Clear #105 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  36. Roger Biddell Saint Hill Interne Clear #107 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  37. Cyril Vosper Tech Staff (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
  38. Brian Livingston Tech Staff Clear #35 One of the original LRH trained Class XII (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)

All the above names were on Pierre Ethier's original list and have been separately verified by Luis Garcia. The following names were also on Pierre's original list, but either could not be verified by Luis or were incorrectly listed. Again, if anyone knows of any omissions or errors on this list, please forward to me at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it so our list can be as accurate as possible:

Philip Quirino LRH Comm Living under guard in reclusive retirement home
Len Regenass
Dalene Regenass Org E.S DECLARED SP Clear #24 (Declared by Current Church Leadership)
Otto Roos Ad Council DECLARED SP Clear #25 One of the original LRH trained Class XII (completed A-E of a prior Declare. But Re-Declared by Current Church Leadership)
Marilynn Routsong HCO Staff DECLARED SP Clear #31 (Declared by Current Church Leadership)
Herbie Parkhouse Org Exec Sec DECLARED SP Clear #55 Personal Friend of LRH Org Exec Sec (Declared by Current Church Leadership)
Anton James Tech Staff DECLARED SP Clear #53 (Declared by Current Church Leadership; Deceased)
Virginia Downsborough Tech Staff DECLARED SP Clear #39 (Declared by Current Church Leadership)
Van Staden Treasury Staff DECLARED SP Clear #40 (Declared by Current Church Leadership)
Felice Green Tech Staff DECLARED SP Clear #26 (Declared by Current Church Leadership)

International Management

And if you think that is a long list, you should see the list of staff who have been declared who worked at Scientology’s International Headquarters in Gilman Hot Springs, California (near Hemet). That list is hundreds long. I haven't done the math (perhaps someone will) but I'd estimate at least 60% to 70% of all the Sea Org Members who have worked at Int have been declared. That's a LOT more than 2 1/2%. And it doesn't matter whether you blow or route out. Either way, you are declared.

But the numbers get even worse. Some 60 people at the Int Base have been declared, and they haven't even left. These are people like Ray Mithoff, Mark Yager, Janet Light, Guillaume Leserve. That's nearly 20% of the people at the Int Base who are also declared.

And you may also wish to take into account the fact that Sea Org members who are cleared to go to the Int Base are already the "best of the best." Meaning, they have to have,

  • A proven record of meaningful accomplishment and positive contributions as a Scientologist
  • Have an I.Q. in the genius band (135 or higher)
  • Have an ethics record that is squeaky clean, i.e., no history of any sexual perversions
  • No drug reversion
  • No psychiatric history of any kind
  • No connections to anyone in the military, government, psychology or the media
  • No unhandled PTS situation
  • Willing to dedicate their lives to the expansion of Scientology
  • No government security clearance
  • At least one year's experience as a Sea Org member with a good production record
  • Special training reserved just for Int Base staff members
  • History of case gain and case in good shape

And with all that, some 60% to 70% still turned out to be raving SPs? No. Miscavige is the SP. My own Declare Order for example does not even list any High Crimes. What it does list are lies.

Can We Ever Be Friends?

In the year 2,000, David Miscavige called everyone at the Int Base to MCI (Massacre Canyon Int -- the old resort restaurant where staff eat). A Miscavige spokes person went up to the podium and said, "You are about to hear a recorded presentation. Each one of you are to consider it as a special message directly from David Miscavige to YOU. Take the message to heart."

As it turned out, the recorded message was a new incredibly hokey version of "Can We Ever Be Friends?" -- an audio program written by LRH for Scientologists so they could hand it to suppressive persons who were attacking them and thereby make a change.

In other words, as of 2,000 David Miscavige was convinced that every single staff member at the Int Base was an SP. In Scientology, that is known as "delusional" or "Type III PTS." PTS is a "potential trouble source" i.e., the victim of a toxic personality. LRH says, "The type three PTS is mostly in institutions or would be. On this case the... apparent SP is spread all over the world and is often more than all the people there are -- for the person sometimes has ghosts about him or demons and they are just more apparent SPs but imaginary as beings as well."

So the actual situation is we have a real SP at the head of Scientology who has been busy for 25 years shooting everyone around him and ruining their lives.

Written by Thoughtful



+10 # Rebecca Hathaway 2009-10-20 16:25
About 3 years ago I knew there was suppression in the church but couldn't put my finger on it. Now after reading lots about DM on the internet, I know I was right. A year ago I decided to disconnect with everything and everyone I knew in the church. I've been SO HAPPY since then.

Love your website :-)

+2 # Bruce 2012-06-25 12:08
WOW, it is so funny but I just lost interest in the church, though I still like some of the people.

I hated the reg cycles for everything but the bridge, but love donating.

I enjoyed hearing the wins, but didn't like the insistence that I believe like the sheeple.

I haven't totally disconnected as I do have two wonderful friends and I am afraid that would put an end to the friendship which I am not wanting to do.

So, I will be 'the the closet' for a while longer but perhaps I will decide to take the jump anyway.

Love your site AND the people I have read.
+4 # Tatiana Baklanova 2009-11-29 19:51
“You should upgrade your idea of what an SP is. Man, meet one sometime! A real one! A real monster…. Well, in all the time we’ve been around here we only had one SP that I know of. One real SP that was on staff…. And I don’t know of another single SP that we’ve ever had on staff. Isn’t that interesting. You see all these SP orders and so on… Don’t throw it around carelessly, because this is an–a very exaggerated condition, SP.”

L. Ron Hubbard, “About Rhodesia,” lecture, 19 July 1966, Saint Hill Special Briefing Course tape transcripts, Lecture Set 421-434, pp. 223-224
+3 # Lawrence 2009-12-31 12:34
Why are they declared {people like Guillaume Lesevere} and still allowed to work there?

Is David Miscavige some kind of fool or something?

That makes no real sense to declare someone and then keep them around.
+2 # Laura 2012-07-13 23:32
It makes sense if you realize these people were in a position where they likely have dirt on DM.
+4 # Hugh SP 2010-01-11 13:33
I don't believe the IQ score of 135 is a requirement, but the rest of your list fits. You are given tons of tests and sec checking before being posted to Int but there was no required IQ to be there, though I did get the feeling they told some people that to flatter them and make them feel "elite." I'm sure you knew plenty of people at Int whose IQ's were much closer to room temperature than "genius band."
+2 # KSW 2010-02-21 06:52
I believe this LRH reference explains describes DM's mindset and his actions. To me it also gives a prediction that in the end he will do himself in. In fact he is doing it already, because it
is his actions that have caused all these great beings to band together now into an "independent field" and coalesce more and more into a team:


“When working with the criminal, one can get a very good idea of that person’s mental state by getting him to say what other people want and do or are guilty of.

“It is inconceivable to the criminal that anyone could possibly be decent or do a selfless act. It would do no good whatever to try to convince him, for he KNOWS all men are like himself.

“Thus, one gets another datum:

“Fortunately, there are still a lot of decent people left in the world.”

# AnonIndie 2014-01-26 03:24
@KSW: Here here!!!
+3 # Marcy Powers 2010-02-21 15:45
OMG!!!! DM needs to go to prison!!! I want to help get him there!!! I have a friend who was at Gold for a while and lived thru hell. He was basically held captive the last few months before he "escaped"....we need to stop this madman!
+2 # Nathan 2010-03-25 19:13
I noticed LRH is at the top of the list. Do you actually mean LRH has been declared SP by current management?
+1 # Thoughtful 2010-03-26 01:14
No, all those who are declared are noted as such... LRH is not. The list was compiled by Pierre Ethier and reprinted here with his permission.
+1 # maria spencer 2010-04-22 07:03
The list of all those trained at st hill and knew LRH all on the list I knew and worked with them at st Hill and am in touch with some
Yes I find that very very off he declares and and all freinds of LRH
+2 # Curious 2010-08-21 18:54
Why doesn't anyone stand up to D.M. on the inside, but just cowers and blows?. Instead I hear a lot of barking from a distance. Why?
# Tom M 2011-07-24 10:30
Correction - Fred Fairchild is currently staff at Las Vegas Org.

ML Tom
# Greebly 2011-12-15 22:11
I don't see the Stainforths on the lists I will check with Sharone.
+2 # Frank 2012-07-21 17:43
Can you add dates to this list? I find it otherwise difficult to believe. But if true... Wtf, get that lunatic out ASAP.
+1 # Jan 2012-09-23 20:42
This guy is what, 3 feet tall? How is it he can go around assaulting people without anyone fighting back?
# Sarah 2012-10-09 18:47
I really would like to talk to some scientologists... feel so disconnected :( this is my skype- sarahhall558
# Thoughtful 2012-10-13 14:23
Hi Sarah, check out my newest website, just what you are looking for: http://www.iscientology.org
# jake 2013-01-01 07:49
I think cyril vosper was declared when LRH was still alive, he went on local press and tv saying a lot of untruths, his wife stayed on and changed her name back to her maiden name, she worked downstairs in the AO.
He was a valid SP declaration.

Great site by the way
# jake 2013-01-03 02:41
I'd just like to add I'm ex CMO UK, and I've always believed in the tech
Its been a while out in the wilderness for me and to finally find out that its ok to be a scientologist blows a lot of charge, I can tell you
thanks again
+1 # Thoughtful 2013-01-03 10:15
Thank you Jake, nice to have you on board. When you get time, also check out Freeandable.com, iscientology.org, scientologyreviews.com (those are all safe websites) and of course Marty's Rathbun's blog.
# christopher 2013-07-21 16:45
I am an ex Scientologist...I was in the cmoixu org. How could I have been that stupified by a coult?
# Notalee 2013-08-12 10:52
I left early '80s when newbee's could attest to Clear with a few hours of auditing, even M1 word clearing. How insane. I was a NED auditor and heard a recording with DM telling someone to 'declare' different people as SPs without a ComEve. More insanity ensued. Did DM setup up the flaky clear attestations? My feelings are that LRH was gone and DM took over about '81. Now I'm hearing about more stuff that is so not tech, and the newbee's don't know any better. Why doesn't anyone 'declare' DM and get things back to standard tech? Breaks my heart this has spiraled so out of control. Used to be very worthy!
# AnonIndie 2014-01-26 03:22
Wow -- Steve. Way to confront evil, dude. Well done on all your hard work and thanks for shining the light in the dark corners.
-1 # Thoughful 2014-01-26 03:29
You're welcomed. Pierre did most of the research on this, so credit to him.

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