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Monday, 05 April 2010 12:09

I have now watched the Anderson Cooper 360 interview series five times. While I have yet to transcribe them and go through the whole set of interviews enumerating the outpoints and pluspoints, the thing that struck me first brought to mind this FREEDOM magazine article that L. Ron Hubbard published 16 June 1969. You can find it in the Tech Volumes. Ironically, you can also find it at http://www.lronhubbard.org/eng/fightrae/page078.htm

How to Win an Argument

by L. Ron Hubbard

It is not entirely just to say that psychiatrists and psychologists have no technology.

True, they can cure nothing and cannot change anyone for better or worse and as a result have to kill "difficult patients."

But they do have one piece of technology.

This is concerned with winning arguments.

Anyone who disagrees with their planned totalitarian rule is pronounced "insane." He is seized quietly, conveyed to a prison, tortured and usually permanently injured or killed.

People they cannot get their hands on but who exist in literature or legend they also pronounce "insane."

Barry Goldwater was labeled a ''paranoid schizophrenic" by psychiatrists employed by the opposing party. Whitaker Chambers was dubbed a ''psychopathic personality." Woodrow Wilson was declared a "megalomaniac," and even Jesus Christ, when the psychiatrists decided religion barred their way to world control, was called a "born regenerate" with a "fixed delusional system" manifesting a "paranoid clinical picture (so typical) it is hardly conceivable people can even question the accuracy of the diagnosis."

In other words, psychologists and psychiatrists do have a piece of technology. Anyone who has any other idea than total social control is labeled" crazy." This at once disposes of the fellow of course. It invalidates his views and so gets them out of the road of "psychiatric progress" toward the Total State.

There are only two things odd about this technology.

One is that it is only used on people who speak of freedom or whose views oppose psychiatric ambitions.

The other is that it cannot be called new. Even though a lot of Latin is employed to make the point, it is very difficult to find any difference between this technology and that employed by little boys.

As almost anyone has always known, devoid of all Latin terms, when two little boys can't agree on some vague point little boys disagree about, one or the other since caveman times has always tried to end the argument by saying:

“You’re crazy!”

Could it be their whole technology has never really advanced beyond that of the neighborhood bully?

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder


In the CNN interviews, the Church-based respondents repeatedly resorted to this tactic.  I watched the entire interview series several times, each time looking for a now-outside accuser to resort to this tactic. And I didn’t find it.

Then I remembered the conditions under which the little boy begins to use this approach.

It’s when he’s losing.

Written by Plain Old Thetan


 

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# Marta 2010-04-05 06:37
Nailed it. Bullseye. Terrific analysis and precise reference. Thanks, Plain Old Thetan, it was a terrific read this morning.
 
 
# Pink Panther 2010-04-05 13:57
Thanks for this. We watched the series -- each of the episodes two or three times as they were posted online. After reflecting on it, we feel that the series will have destroyed DM's reputation in the world with non-Scientologist political, religious and social leaders. Who would want to be associated with a person like him?
 
 
# Guest 2010-04-05 14:29
Quote:

Anyone who disagrees with their planned totalitarian rule is pronounced "insane."

We already know DM is in a psychiatric valence.
Like Pavlov electric shocking dogs, DM teaches by PAIN, BRUTALITY, SADISM.

He is even trying to paint Marty insane and Anderson Cooper as an electric shock victum.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course this completely backfires and would make the public think ECT was no harm, given Anderson's success, coherence, mental faculties and so on.
 
 
# Surf Dude 2010-04-05 14:57
Spot on! Bravo! You nailed it!

"And that's the way it is!"
 
 
# Peter 2010-04-05 15:23
Dave Miscarriage is cronic 1.5 = FASCIST
 
 
# Freedom Fighter 2010-04-05 17:10
Boy, you definitely nailed it! Little boy indeed!
 
 
# Ceileen 2010-04-05 20:21
Good find!
They have really gone too far, they're not believable at all.

Just to add my own 5 cents:
TRULY FORGIVEN
It is interesting to me how such a huge flap in the life of Tiger Woods, which was a worldwide flap, would result in him being forgiven and welcomed back. All he did was come out and be honest about how he screwed up, did his penance, took his knocks and is now getting on with his life. The public have signed his "Liability" formula, even his wife has. That just goes to show that if one comes clean and honestly works to make up the damage, one is forgiven. It is a point of common decency in the public at large, why can it not be used within the CofS according to the writings of LRH?

It is most likely this common decency that has prompted public support of Marty and Mike. They have been honest about doing or condoning things they knew were wrong. They are taking actions to make up the damage, thus they are believed and forgiven. TD, dmettes, et al on behalf of dm are not believed and thus are despised and will never gain public support.

I am a big fan of Tiger Woods and have gladly signed his formula, so to speak. I'm glad he's back and wish him well.

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Tiger-Woods-owns-up-to-mistakes-looks-forward-t?urn=golf,232143
 
 
# TRUTH 2010-04-07 08:06
Spot on! This is a great post. Thank you!

Peter, I guess you have been too reasonable with Miscavige. 1.5 is a pretty high tone level for that midget. He is chronically way way down on the tone scale.
 
 
# Deseara 2010-04-20 21:30
I think that those who are members of this website "Scientology-cult" pretend to be behind only actions that are pure "Source" materials, but in fact have positioned themselves with enemy lines of "cult" knowingly and with the intention to destroy Scientology. It is one thing to expose DM and his off source evil actions, quite another to ally with enemies and you know it.
 
 
# Thoughtful 2010-04-21 02:05
Let's just examine your statement against the Data Series:

1. Your statement as to "our" intentions is unsubstantiated. Outpoint: ASSUMED IDENTITIES NOT IDENTICAL

2. Your statement as to our intentions is untrue. Outpoint: FALSEHOOD

3. You are using generalities "ally with enemies" -- what enemies exactly? Outpoint: OMITTED FACT

4. Have you even gotten into comm with these suspected enemies to find out what their actual intentions are? Have you applied precepts "Look" and "Learn" are you just making assumptions? What happened to your ability to confront life? Outpoint: ASSUMED IDENTITIES NOT IDENTICAL

5. You have a huge button on the word "cult" that needs to be flattened, i.e., your TRs are out. Outpoint: ADDED INAPPLICABLE

6. You are only concerned with the "members" of Scientology-cult and aren't even commenting on the subject thus you are missing the whole point. Outpoint: WRONG TARGET

7. You assume the Church is not a cult yet all indications confirm that it is. Outpoint: ASSUMED DIFFERENCES NOT DIFFERENT

8. You equate Scientology and the Church of Scientology as the same thing. They are not even remotely the same. Outpoint: ASSUMED IDENTITIES NOT IDENTICAL

9. You presume to have DM's pet super-human ability to not only see inside the minds of others, but to detect and deduce the nature of their personal intentions when you are patently unable to do so. Outpoint: FALSEHOOD, ADDED INAPPLICABLE PTSNESS

10. Per LRH discoveries about the mind, the illogical things you accuse others of are actually what you yourself are guilty of. Outpoint: WRONG SOURCE

11. You also make one of DM's pet jabs, and a method he uses frequently to introvert people i.e. the "and you know it" statement at the end. How would you know? Super-human powers again? Outpoint: ADDED INAPPLICABLE SUPPRESSION

OUTPOINT COUNT:

ASSUMED "IDENTITIES" ARE NOT IDENTICAL - 3
ADDED INAPPLICABLE DATA - 3
FALSEHOOD - 2
OMITTED FACT - 1
WRONG TARGET - 1
WRONG SOURCE - 1
ASSUMED "DIFFERENCES" ARE NOT DIFFERENT - 1

All the outpoints came from you.

WHY: YOU ARE PTS.
 

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