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			<title>Thanks Jim !!!</title>
			<link>http://www.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-4597</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much Jim !!! You really spent a great deal of time into this one. And confronted so much. I really agree that Disconnection is a vital tool in handling suppression. There are some cases where it IS applicable, and can save one's behind. But only if done right and at the right time. Immediate disconnection from an SP boss or criminal neighbourhood or location is an example. There are others. But LRH does recommend HANDLE in most cases. With lots of tech to apply. And only as a last resort to Disconnect. It really appears D.M. took the PTS tech and did a real slant on it. He thought that since he HAD to take over Scientology, he then had to put lots of heads on a pike. Label them squirrels, suppressives, criminals... And since he's the "Good Guy", the "New Savior in town" - then we all trust him. Right ? Then, make it illegal to still associate with them - by twisting the tech around to make it a rule against any association with these former members. After all these guys might talk, might reveal this new regime for what is really is. But if labelled "SP's" then they must be disconnected from. And not listened to. Right? Says so in the new "tech". (Note - not all declared persons were good little angels and some did need correction or ethics and justice. But many were good, but since not in agreement with the new regime's tactics, were labeled bad.) After all, since many individuals feel they need someone to tell them what to do, and LRH is not around anymore, then D.M's RTC will suffice. But not me. I still have my own mind, and can sort out which piece of tech applies to which sit. Thanks again Jim.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:44:03 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
			<link>http://www.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1251</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Freedom Fighter, I don't know exactly who held what in WDC at that time. I was at the Flag Land Base, and any traffic I got from them was cryptically signed 'WDC A' or some other letter. These signatures later changed, not sure when as I was out on the road playing music, and when I got to the Int Base in the spring of 86, WDC now had specific titles. WDC Gold, WDC Reserves and such. On the Gang of Five write up, here on this site, is a better description of the CMOI level at the time of the early 80s and its, WDC that is, origination. WDC was and is a part of CMO Int and was manned then as now (well now pretty much it is unmanned and unmocked by one of its former members, WDC Sea Org, back then, David Miscavige)by CMOI staff. DM was not in WDC when this issue was written, he was by title, in ASI, and was in fact over the All Clear Unit. That unit was distinct from others and more or less autonomous. The precursor to the autonomy DM seems to favor. Some would call it, rightfully, the fascistic despotism of an 'only one' that he seems to favor. Even he describes himself as 'uniquely qualified' on his very own homage site.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:22:03 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>Freedom Fighter says:</title>
			<link>http://www.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1238</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jim, Who was on the WDC back in 1982?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:56:07 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>Freedom Fighter says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA["The tech of PTS is there. I'm saing USE IT, as it is written by LRH. Then it works. IF it doesn't them I'm saying IT HASN'T BEEN DONE." Can I get an AMEN!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:33:26 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Old Auditor, Yes, PR Series 19 Safe Point is applicable. The first step in handling suppression is A) Discover. Then B)handle or disconnect. Even before that comes some recognition that one IS indeed PTS. Without education in the area, that recognition is unlikely. Spotting that one IS PTS, then discovering to whom or what, that is, the RIGHT SP, are the first steps. Not disconnection. From the first steps done accurately, then one can begin to get to cause over the actual suppression. Merely 'disconnecting' with no real grasp or effective accomplishment of the first steps is what DM is himself running and has been for decades. The tech of PTS is there. I'm saying USE IT, as it is written by LRH. Then it works. IF it doesn't then I'm saying IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. If that's what you are saying, then yes, we are in agreement.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:37:39 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>Handling DM after regaining sanity</title>
			<link>http://www.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1229</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Jim, I hope we are in accord that disconnection is a necessary first step in handling DM whether you are public or staff. DM controls the playing field inside the church of Scientology. No one at any level inside the C of S has shown that they can handle him. Those that have tried have succumbed and some have become total effect of DM. This particular subset of PTS behavior is concisely described as the Stockholm Syndrome which communicates well to a wider range of public than PTS Type One does. Handling of the current church scene requires one to find a safe point and begin to speak up. There is no safe point in the Church from to communicate about out-tech and off-policy actions. Right now, the only way to communicate to church terminals and to the public at large is to establish oneself in a secure position outside the church and communicate on all possible lines to those who can take action. DM controls the church. Fortunately, he does not control the Internet and there are many actions that can be taken that will expose his criminality without running afoul of DM's lawyers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Old Auditor</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:40:36 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>jim logan says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Old Auditor, You've brought up an excellent example of how this tech 'handle or disconnect' and it's full description encapsulated in the essay I wrote, can be used. Relative to the suppression of DM's MESTOLOGY and CANTHAVIGEOLOGY. One can 'disconnect' to some degree, keeping in mind the data of the actual 16 April 82 HCOB and it's 10 Aug 73 HCOB counterpart. There is no way to relinquish 'handle' however (consider the Power formula for instance). It is after all, the Church of Scientology, underneath all that DM suppression. That 3D is an organism that is not just going to up and die. So, this is a case in point of application of the full materials. Including 'Educating the Potential Trouble Source' the FIRST step to handling the condition as per the latest tech developments. In order to successfully deal with the suppression emanating from DM's travesty, the exact application of the materials is needed. Including 'handle or disconnect'. Reading the above HCOBs one sees that one can't really 'disconnect' when one has out rudiments, ARCXs, problems (how about family in the Sea Org for example)and overts/wittholds relative to the source of suppression, DM's travesty and it's manifestations in the CofS staff and public dramatizing the SP's valence and forwarding the suppression. One can't really 'handle' with the same out rudiments. As to the 'Stockholm Syndrome'. I looked this up a while back and it seems to me this catchphrase, even the 'diagnosis' is so cursory compared to the body of materials of Scn and the PTS/SP phenomena for one, LX Lists and the phenomena of valence for two and several others that immediately come to mind, that this is sort of using a Dinky toy to do the job of a D9 Caterpillar. It is an interesting 'disorder' for about 20 seconds. It has no basic source given and no tech to handle. No thankyou. I'll stick to Scientology.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:48:06 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>Let\'s cut to the chase...</title>
			<link>http://www.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1219</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It has been demonstrated thoroughly that David Miscavige cannot be handled by those left within the church, so disconnection is the only route for staff and public to regain sanity. As it is, there are many who suffer from Stockholm syndrome* and will take years to regain self-determinism. *Upper management terminals have been so skillfully degraded that they are totally dependent on DM and have fallen into a debased worship of the man. Watch the next major event, if you can stomach it, and see the top execs, who have been locked in the "hole" for years, appear as willing spectators and speakers. That is the ultimate degradation, after years of abuse to be cleaned up and put on display at events to show that "all is well!" After the event they are put back in their RPF rags and locked up again. Disconnection from this madness is the only way to regain your sanity.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Old Auditor</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:03:37 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>addendum</title>
			<link>http://www.scientology-cult.com/3d-engram.html#comment-1218</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I've just recently been sent a 'mimeo' run off of the 10 Oct 96 version of HCOB 16 April 82, MORE ON PTS HANDLINGS which has a note at the top of the issue. It states: "(Reissued 10 October 1996 to correct transcription errors)". Apparently the 'evil stenographers' weren't isolated to the books. They've been at LRH dispatches as well. Thank you DM for saving us from evil transcriptionists as well as stenographers, typists, and all manner of clerical SPs.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:13:02 --600</pubDate>
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			<title>oops</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[FOS, Ooops, sorry I missed the tape titles there. The first is Conference with the Guardian, available on the internet at Mark Bunker's Guardian Office data site. He's got a pretty complete lay out of the docs seized by the FBI raids in 77. On one link, the Intelligence Officer Checksheet, there are various tapes, this is one of them. The second quote comes from About Rhodesia, that's on the BC. One other thing I do want to make clear on this long, long essay I've written (sorry it's so long but I wanted to get the data across) and that's the fact that 'handle or disconnect' as an LRH datum, was never cancelled. Disconnection as valid tool of sorting out a real PTS connection to an SP, (or as an inalienable right of every being to give or receive communication when they themselves desire it, or not) was and remains a valid tool. The materials need to be studied, that's exactly what LRH states in the Educating The Potential Trouble Source HCOB of 31 Dec 78. My main point in writing this essay was to help spot the confusion of the various sits going on at the time, the early 80s, and the introduction of an arbitrary to deal with them. That has become entrenched and is a fixed idea/fixed 'stable datum'. As an arbitrary is has aberrated the group. LRH's tech developments such as are described in the essay are what they are. Disconnect, if used incorrectly and arbitrarily never worked, it still doesn't. It DOES work, when applied sensibly and that's what LRH materials are, sense. Of course, as in DM's case, you declare so many falsely and then force disconnection, well, you end up with the suppression and bullsh** we see daily.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>jim logan</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:47:35 --600</pubDate>
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